Show Notes

From having only 6 months to live at 17 years old to being completely blind for the past 21 years... Discover the inspiring story of your host, Kevin Lowe.

Who Is This For?

This episode is here for anyone facing seemingly insurmountable challenges or seeking inspiration to overcome life's obstacles. If you've ever wondered about the resilience of the human spirit or the untapped potential within us all, Kevin Lowe's story will leave you in awe and filled with hope.


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Connect with Kevin by sending him a voice message

Listen to Kaley Z's Inspiring Story

Meet Kevin's Mom

Plus Meet Kevin's Grandmother - Nana


What's It All About?

In this deeply moving and inspiring episode, host Kevin Lowe switches roles and becomes the interviewee on the 21st anniversary of the day that both saved and changed his life forever. Interviewed by Kaley Z, Kevin shares his journey from a 17-year-old high school student facing a life-threatening brain tumor to becoming completely blind after surgery. He opens up about the challenges, the dark moments, and the incredible discoveries that followed, including learning to adapt to a new way of life. Kevin's story is a testament to the power of faith, resilience, and the human spirit's capacity to find light in the darkest of times.


Some Key Takeaways:

Discover how Kevin's childhood experiences unknowingly prepared him for the challenges ahead

Learn about the power of acceptance and how it can lead to finding new purpose in life

Gain perspective on overcoming challenges and finding meaning in life's unexpected turns


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Show Transcript

Kaylee Z.

Welcome back to Grit, Grace, and Inspiration.


Kaylee Z.

I bet you're wondering why Kevin, your host, suddenly sounds like a woman.


Kaylee Z.

This is Kaylee Z.


Kaylee Z.

And I'm taking over the podcast.


Kaylee Z.

Today.


Kaylee Z.

I have the distinct honor of getting to interview the creator and host of Grit, Grace, and Inspiration, Kevin Lo.


Kaylee Z.

I'm sure all of you know this by now.


Kaylee Z.

Kevin is truly a gift to the world.


Kaylee Z.

He is the quintessential symbol of strength and resilience.


Kaylee Z.

And as you will hear in this episode, today is a very special occasion, and I felt it was important for all of Kevin's listeners to get a deep dive into his journey and story.


Kaylee Z.

Today we will learn how, in fact, Kevin became the beacon of hope and strength that he is and how he created this space for inspiration and transformation, which is really what the podcast is.


Kaylee Z.

I'm really excited to guide all of us on this journey together today.


Kaylee Z.

So please join me in welcoming our very special guest host, Kevin Lowe.


Kevin Lowe

Yo.


Kevin Lowe

Are you ready to flip the script on life?


Kevin Lowe

Cause those bad days, they're just doors to better days.


Kevin Lowe

And that's exactly what we do here at Grit, Grace, and Inspiration.


Kevin Lowe

Your host, Kevin Lowe, he's been flipping the script on his own life, turning over 20 years of being completely blind into straight up inspiration, motivation, and encouragement just for you.


Kevin Lowe

So kick back, relax, and let me introduce you to your host, Kevin Lowe.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Well, I feel so honored today to get to interview you, Kevin, so I'll just let everyone know.


Kaylee Z.

My name is Kaylee, and this is the greatest honor.


Kaylee Z.

I put Kevin on the spot all of a sudden and said, wait a second.


Kaylee Z.

Have you been interviewed?


Kaylee Z.

Maybe you should be interviewed.


Kaylee Z.

So today we are doing this very special interview in honor of your anniversary.


Kaylee Z.

So why don't you get us started there, Kevin?


Kaylee Z.

What does it mean that this is your anniversary?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So October 28th of this year was my 21st anniversary of, as I say, the day that both my life was saved and the anniversary of the day that my life was forever changed because of that marking.


Kevin Lowe

Also, the day that I became completely blind.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

And, you know, obviously, I have so many questions.


Kaylee Z.

I feel I'm the one being interviewed a lot.


Kaylee Z.

This is very different for me to get to interview you.


Kaylee Z.

And I just want to say, in preparation for this, it was extremely humbling to realize that.


Kaylee Z.

First of all, there's so much I hope that we'll be able to share today.


Kaylee Z.

But just in hearing you talk about this anniversary, you were pretty young, right?


Kaylee Z.

How old were you?


Kevin Lowe

I was.


Kevin Lowe

I was 17.


Kevin Lowe

So I was in my junior year of high school.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Which for all of us listening, you know, you can only imagine what that's like.


Kaylee Z.

And.


Kaylee Z.

And it's bittersweet, in a sense.


Kaylee Z.

Your life was saved.


Kaylee Z.

And did you know when you went into this, this all unfolded from a surgery?


Kaylee Z.

Correct, Correct.


Kevin Lowe

So we found out that I had a brain tumor.


Kevin Lowe

It was non cancerous, thank goodness.


Kevin Lowe

But yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So this all relates to me going in to have this brain tumor removed that they literally, at the time that we had found it, they gave me only six months to live if it wasn't removed.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

So here we are celebrating.


Kaylee Z.

And, you know, if everyone could see me right now, I'd be, you know, lifting a glass for you and toasting to your life.


Kaylee Z.

We're celebrating your life.


Kaylee Z.

And yet that surgery did not go as planned.


Kaylee Z.

Did you know what?


Kaylee Z.

Like, was this a risk?


Kaylee Z.

Were you told that this could be a risk?


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

So if anybody's ever had any type of procedure before, you know that like the doctors, they always go through, like, all the big, long list of possible risks, you know, and it's ironic now when I think back on it, because I always remember the last one, he said, and it was a 1% possibility of becoming blind.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, I'm covered in chills.


Kaylee Z.

That was the last risk you were told, and it was 1%?


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So I say you can decide how you want to look at it.


Kevin Lowe

I'm either the most unlucky or the luckiest person alive.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, gosh.


Kaylee Z.

See, Kevin, this is why I feel so honored to interview you.


Kaylee Z.

Because you just said that.


Kaylee Z.

That.


Kaylee Z.

Of course he would say that.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

So, I mean, you.


Kaylee Z.

You've already opened so much I want to ask you about when you found out that.


Kaylee Z.

Go back a little bit.


Kaylee Z.

When you found out that there was a brain tumor, your mom.


Kaylee Z.

Your.


Kaylee Z.

I actually got a chance to talk to your mom.


Kaylee Z.

That was the coolest thing ever, by the way.


Kaylee Z.

She's so special.


Kaylee Z.

She told me about that moment and how she just.


Kaylee Z.

She just sort of was frozen, staring, and she just said, I just kept staring.


Kaylee Z.

And I just kept staring at him, at the doctor.


Kaylee Z.

What was that moment like for you?


Kevin Lowe

The moment when.


Kaylee Z.

When you found out there was a tumor.


Kaylee Z.

When you were told there was a tumor.


Kevin Lowe

So we had went to a doctor.


Kevin Lowe

So when all of this, this whole kind of ball got rolling, basically all started by me going to a new family doctor.


Kevin Lowe

And that doctor basically was the one who put all the pieces together of all these different symptoms I was having.


Kevin Lowe

I had.


Kevin Lowe

I had always had, like, migraine headaches you know, I wasn't growing.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, 17 years old, I hadn't gone through puberty.


Kevin Lowe

All these things that my pediatrician always just kept blowing off, basically that I was just a late bloomer, you know, that I'm just gonna be short, you know, all this stuff.


Kaylee Z.

So frustrating.


Kevin Lowe

And so.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

And so when we went to this new doctor and he was just a new family doctor in town, and he immediately.


Kevin Lowe

He was the one who told my mom out in the hallway, like, listen, I.


Kevin Lowe

We need to get him to a specialist.


Kevin Lowe

And so that then brings up the first time that the term brain tumor was ever said was in the doctor's office of the endocrinologist.


Kaylee Z.

But you had now spent not just years, like your entire childhood.


Kaylee Z.

Right.


Kaylee Z.

Going through different symptoms that they were just ignoring.


Kaylee Z.

Kind of like, he'll grow out of it.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, yes, absolutely.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

My entire childhood was.


Kevin Lowe

When you look at it now from the big picture, it was just textbook symptoms that should never have been missed.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my gosh, Kevin, like, what?


Kaylee Z.

Tell us about those symptoms.


Kaylee Z.

What was your childhood like?


Kevin Lowe

So I think it was maybe in kindergarten is when I failed the eye exam at school.


Kevin Lowe

And so that started my journey of getting glasses.


Kevin Lowe

Then, as I would continue to grow up and keep going to eye doctors, all of the eye doctors I went to, they always found it strange that they could never get my vision to perfectly correct, even with glasses.


Kaylee Z.

So there was always sort of something off.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, yes.


Kevin Lowe

Same thing with my mom.


Kevin Lowe

She would tell the pediatrician, she's like, you don't understand.


Kevin Lowe

She's like, he drinks more than any human you've ever seen.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, Kaylee, I didn't know what a night's sleep was because I literally.


Kevin Lowe

When I would go to bed at night, I would wake up every single hour.


Kevin Lowe

And I would wake up, I would use the bathroom, I'd get a drink of water, go back to bed, and repeat.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my gosh.


Kevin Lowe

And so we.


Kevin Lowe

Another textbook symptom of what was going on.


Kevin Lowe

And so when I would go to school, I wouldn't be able to drink enough.


Kevin Lowe

And so at the end of every school day, especially starting in middle school, is when it got really bad.


Kevin Lowe

I would come home every day with a raging migraine headache.


Kevin Lowe

It was because I was totally dehydrated.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, my God.


Kevin Lowe

And literally, I remember my.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, my Nana, she would pick me up from school, and I'd come home, and I would literally drink an entire pitcher of tea, just dying of thirst.


Kaylee Z.

So you're describing just one component of this.


Kaylee Z.

What we're talking about.


Kaylee Z.

I didn't say this earlier.


Kaylee Z.

We're talking about a tumor on the pituitary gland.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know, you know that this is my field.


Kaylee Z.

So, I mean, the pituitary gland is responsible for so much.


Kaylee Z.

I don't think a lot of people understand the implications.


Kaylee Z.

You're describing one mechanism.


Kaylee Z.

Tell us more about, if you want to, the pituitary gland.


Kaylee Z.

And it feels like the impact could be endless.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, basically.


Kevin Lowe

So, basically my understanding, basically, the pituitary is.


Kevin Lowe

It's just like the powerhouse of controlling all of your body's hormones.


Kevin Lowe

And so unbeknownst to us, I had this brain tumor that was slowly either encasing or pressing against whatever it was interfering with the pituitary gland.


Kevin Lowe

And so that's why me talking about drinking.


Kevin Lowe

It was the thirst hormone, you know, it was testosterone, growth hormone.


Kevin Lowe

The drinking, you know, they ended up giving me a thing called, like, diabetes insipidus.


Kevin Lowe

And it's not that I have diabetes, but it's this condition that is related to the pituitary with my thirst hormone.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

And so all of this stuff and.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

And so every symptom I had was all related back to the fact that a brain tumor was basically killing off my pituitary.


Kaylee Z.

And it's.


Kaylee Z.

It's so easy.


Kaylee Z.

I know it wasn't.


Kaylee Z.

It now probably is very clear, but for any of us listening, I think it's.


Kaylee Z.

You could see it's like a doctor is going to just look at that one aspect and what's so important when we look at the body, we have to look at the whole organism.


Kaylee Z.

I can only imagine what it feels like to you.


Kaylee Z.

It's like, well, if one doctor had just picked up on that sooner.


Kaylee Z.

Does that ever cross your mind, like, how different your life would have looked?


Kevin Lowe

I don't let myself.


Kaylee Z.

Sorry to bring it up.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.


Kevin Lowe

Honestly, no.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, it's a good question.


Kevin Lowe

And it is a question that I think me and my whole family have thought about many times.


Kevin Lowe

And I've learned in life that you can literally drive yourself insane if you get stuck in the trap of what ifs.


Kaylee Z.

Totally.


Kaylee Z.

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

I learned that.


Kaylee Z.

I learned that when I married now.


Kaylee Z.

I was engaged with once before.


Kaylee Z.

I don't remember if we spoke about this, you and I, but my first fiance died.


Kaylee Z.

And.


Kaylee Z.

And of course, like, all the what ifs went through my mind.


Kaylee Z.

You know, what if I had been there?


Kaylee Z.

What if, you know, he had called me first, like, maybe like anything, because I was out of town at the time.


Kaylee Z.

And a good friend taught me, he said, you cannot do the what ifs.


Kaylee Z.

Anytime a what if pops into your head, you have to just shut it down, change the subject, think something else.


Kaylee Z.

Because you can't know.


Kaylee Z.

If you say, like, well, what if I had been there?


Kaylee Z.

Or what if.


Kaylee Z.

What if a doctor saw it sooner?


Kaylee Z.

We don't know how that would have played out.


Kaylee Z.

So I really value you sharing this.


Kaylee Z.

I think it's one of the greatest lessons that anyone listening can hear.


Kaylee Z.

Because you kind of lose out on your life when you play the what if game.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, absolutely.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kaylee Z.

So I took us back.


Kaylee Z.

So I just wanted to get a better sense.


Kaylee Z.

So you talked about the thirst.


Kaylee Z.

Anything, like, what other symptoms were you going through?


Kaylee Z.

Were you experiencing as a child?


Kevin Lowe

Basically, the most like, say, like, impactful were the migraine headaches.


Kevin Lowe

Always going to the eye doctor, always getting different glasses and such.


Kevin Lowe

But the most debilitating would be the migraine headache.


Kaylee Z.

Sure.


Kevin Lowe

Just the thirst factor, which, I mean, it was such, like, a slow, gradual process that, I mean, I didn't think anything weird about it.


Kevin Lowe

You know what I mean?


Kevin Lowe

It wasn't like I didn't realize, honestly, it was just part of my life that I woke up every hour during the night.


Kevin Lowe

Whoa.


Kevin Lowe

That was just life for me.


Kevin Lowe

And that is why when we finally got the diagnosis, that it just took me by complete shock.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

When all of this started happening and went to the new family doctor, and then he referred to the endocrinologist, and they sent me to the neurosurgeon and MRI and all that stuff.


Kevin Lowe

I never thought it was going to be something like.


Kevin Lowe

Like a brain tumor.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

I can only imagine that kind of surprise.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Especially after years of sort of these things being dismissed or taken as, like, piecemeal.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

How soon after discovering that it was a brain tumor, was there a plan in place to have surgery?


Kevin Lowe

So I can remember when we.


Kevin Lowe

When we got to meet with the pediatric neurosurgeon, and I remember that we were there the first day that we met with him.


Kevin Lowe

And when he went over everything, he had the results of the mri, of course, and he actually had an opening.


Kevin Lowe

I think it was the next day.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my gosh.


Kevin Lowe

And my mom, she wanted me to take it.


Kevin Lowe

I did not want to.


Kevin Lowe

And, you know, she.


Kevin Lowe

You know, she was scared.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Everybody.


Kevin Lowe

Everybody was dealing with their own emotions.


Kevin Lowe

And ultimately, though, we decided to wait.


Kevin Lowe

And I think it was maybe somewhere around maybe, like two weeks later, maybe two, three Weeks later, something like that.


Kevin Lowe

When I would go back in for surgery.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

You said, everybody's emotions.


Kaylee Z.

We're in a different place.


Kaylee Z.

Where were your emotions?


Kevin Lowe

So when my mom told me about the news that she.


Kevin Lowe

So she had gotten the call on, like, a Friday evening.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

With the results of the mri.


Kevin Lowe

And so she was the one who would tell me.


Kevin Lowe

And we had taken our boat that evening up the Intracoastal waterway up to St.


Kevin Lowe

Augustine, Florida, and we were staying there for the weekend.


Kevin Lowe

It was one of my favorite trips that we would take on our boat.


Kevin Lowe

And my mom, she waited to tell me till we got up there.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my God.


Kevin Lowe

And so I was down in the cabin of the boat.


Kevin Lowe

I always say that, like, this part of my story is always weird because it's like, I just remember, like, photographs, like, snapshots.


Kevin Lowe

The first snapshot being down in the boat, sitting there, flipping through a magazine.


Kevin Lowe

And that's when my mom came down and she told me.


Kevin Lowe

And the next snapshot is me getting out of the boat and just running.


Kevin Lowe

Running up the dock.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

And the next snapshot is me up at the top of the marina, leaning against the railing, looking out at the marina.


Kevin Lowe

I didn't know why I was upset.


Kevin Lowe

I guess it was just the simple fact of.


Kevin Lowe

I never thought it was going to be something like a brain tumor.


Kevin Lowe

You always just think it's going to be something easy.


Kevin Lowe

Especially then.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, I never.


Kevin Lowe

You never even heard of anybody having a brain tumor, let alone that I would be the one.


Kevin Lowe

And so after that initial shock wore off, and after I would get confirmation, you know, from the doctor, from the neurosurgeon, that everything was gonna be okay.


Kevin Lowe

He literally told me.


Kevin Lowe

He's like, I do these surgeries all the time.


Kaylee Z.

Whoa.


Kevin Lowe

And he, you know, he let me know.


Kevin Lowe

He's like, kevin.


Kevin Lowe

He's like, it's gonna be no big deal.


Kevin Lowe

He said, we'll go in.


Kevin Lowe

We'll remove the tumor.


Kevin Lowe

Basically, they had to kind of remove, like, the front quadrant of my skull.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

When you said, no big deal, I was like, I'm sorry.


Kaylee Z.

Didn't they open your skull?


Kaylee Z.

Like, didn't they have to, like, remove.


Kaylee Z.

I mean.


Kaylee Z.

Sorry, this is graphic.


Kaylee Z.

But, like, your forehead, like, what?


Kaylee Z.

No big deal.


Kevin Lowe

Y.


Kevin Lowe

It was.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, it was no big deal to the nurse.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my God.


Kevin Lowe

But honestly, you know, like, for me.


Kevin Lowe

And so, you know, literally, I mean, he told me, and he told me, you know, I'd be back to school in three weeks.


Kevin Lowe

And so I've always had a really good Personality.


Kevin Lowe

And so I immediately realized the positives.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

I got to get out of school for three weeks.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Your mom mentioned you really didn't like school.


Kaylee Z.

You mentioned you were highly intelligent.


Kaylee Z.

Did well, always got straight A's.


Kaylee Z.

But didn't like it.


Kevin Lowe

No.


Kevin Lowe

So literally, as soon as I got this news, first day back at school, went into my guidance counselor.


Kevin Lowe

Amazing.


Kevin Lowe

Ms.


Kevin Lowe

Tully told her.


Kevin Lowe

Ms.


Kevin Lowe

Tully, I've got to drop out of trigonometry.


Kevin Lowe

Much to my disappointment.


Kevin Lowe

And so that was literally the greatest day of my life when I got to walk into class and see all my friends, and I got to hand a slip to the teacher and say, see you later, suckers.


Kevin Lowe

I'm going to be an office aide, you know.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

And so you're seeing all the pros.


Kevin Lowe

All the pros.


Kevin Lowe

And to the point that I even.


Kevin Lowe

I named my tumor Bob.


Kevin Lowe

Bob the Tumor.


Kevin Lowe

And literally, like our whole family, before surgery, we had a going away Bob party.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, my gosh.


Kaylee Z.

I love that.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

And I mean.


Kevin Lowe

And even all the way up to the day of surgery.


Kevin Lowe

Well, it was actually the day before when we had to go over to the hospital over in Orlando, Florida, about an hour away.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, my mom's minivan was loaded up.


Kevin Lowe

Like you would have thought we were going on vacation because we had everything.


Kevin Lowe

All kind of bags of clothes, everything.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

And we went over there and I mean, up to the fact, Kaylee, the night before my surgery, I'm literally in the hospital room.


Kevin Lowe

My family's there.


Kevin Lowe

I wanted Outback Steakhouse for dinner.


Kevin Lowe

So literally, my sister and aunt went out and got takeout from Outback for everybody.


Kaylee Z.

Nice.


Kevin Lowe

And I'm literally sitting in my hospital bed eating my Outback steak.


Kevin Lowe

The end of the night, when everybody else left, I remember we pulled up my.


Kevin Lowe

One of my favorite movies was the Too Fast, Too Furious.


Kevin Lowe

And.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

And we had it playing.


Kevin Lowe

This is how old it is.


Kevin Lowe

It was on dvd, on a laptop.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kaylee Z.

I saw it in theaters.


Kaylee Z.

You know, I.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly, exactly.


Kaylee Z.

I got you.


Kevin Lowe

And so I remember my sister got into the hospital bed with me, and we laid there and was watching that movie.


Kevin Lowe

This, Kaylee, was a bump in the road.


Kevin Lowe

We finally found the problem.


Kaylee Z.

Right.


Kevin Lowe

And I thought we were just solving the problem, and then I'd get to get back to life, and life would be really great after this.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

And no idea.


Kevin Lowe

Nobody did.


Kevin Lowe

Not even my surgeon.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Nobody had a single clue what was going to happen.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

One of the things that I almost can't unhear that your mom shared with me she said that they gave you a heads up before surgery or they told them.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know if they told you.


Kaylee Z.

Actually, you'll tell me.


Kaylee Z.

If they told you that you would have eye patches or like, like gauze or a bandage.


Kaylee Z.

A bandage over your eyes so that when you would first wake up, you wouldn't.


Kaylee Z.

You wouldn't be able to see.


Kaylee Z.

But then.


Kaylee Z.

But because you knew that to, like, not worry.


Kaylee Z.

So, yeah, it's almost like I can't.


Kaylee Z.

I can't even imagine what that means for you to then have found out that, like, you were told to, like, okay, that's just normal, stay calm.


Kaylee Z.

But so then it was like a delay.


Kaylee Z.

You only realize much later, right?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

I always say it's really tricky because I don't really know, like, everybody wants, like, that really, like, awesome point of the story.


Kevin Lowe

Like, when did you realize that you were blind?


Kevin Lowe

You know?


Kevin Lowe

And like, as somebody who loves a good story, I wish I had a good, like, climactic point, you know?


Kevin Lowe

Like, unfortunately I don't.


Kevin Lowe

And you're right, though.


Kevin Lowe

My mom says that she really thinks that that's partly to do.


Kevin Lowe

Why when I did start waking up that I didn't freak out is because they had told us that, you know, so.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

When you did realize, what was that like for you?


Kaylee Z.

What were your first thoughts?


Kaylee Z.

What ensued in the, you know, in the following days?


Kevin Lowe

I had my surgery October 28th.


Kevin Lowe

I stayed in the ICU and didn't come home until, I think November 13th.


Kevin Lowe

I think I came home on my sister's birthday.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

I don't remember.


Kaylee Z.

You guys have big milestone days.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

And so I don't remember any of the time in the hospital after surgery.


Kevin Lowe

My memory doesn't come back until sometime later, being back at home.


Kevin Lowe

And I can tell you that for a really long time, every day when I woke up in the morning, I had to face the reality that I couldn't see.


Kevin Lowe

Especially because every single night I'd go to bed and I'd beg.


Kevin Lowe

I'd beg God with all my being to let me see again.


Kevin Lowe

And I truly knew that God could heal.


Kevin Lowe

And I knew that God is capable of everything, of anything.


Kevin Lowe

And I would beg and I would plead him to please let me wake up in the morning and be able to see.


Kevin Lowe

And yet every morning, I'd wake up and I'd open my eyes and I'd see the same thing that I did when they were closed.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

How you share this saying, you know, I know God can do anything.


Kaylee Z.

How do you maintain that faith.


Kaylee Z.

Here you are, years later, still wake up seeing the same thing as when they're closed.


Kevin Lowe

God has blessed me, Kayleigh, in the most amazing ways possible.


Kevin Lowe

It took a really long time to be able to understand it and to believe it and that this was all in God's plan.


Kevin Lowe

When I look back on my childhood, Kaylee, everything about my childhood was in preparation for what was to come.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

He made me a kid who was super organized.


Kevin Lowe

A skill that lends its hand to when you become blind.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

He.


Kevin Lowe

He made me a kid who always wanted to try something new.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, my mom will tell you that I drove her crazy as a kid.


Kaylee Z.

She did tell me that I didn't test her.


Kaylee Z.

He's right.


Kaylee Z.

She did say that it was like how many hob surfing every few weeks was something new, right?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, pretty much.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

And so God was letting me just try out all kinds of things to the fact also of being blessed with an opportunity to get to travel.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, I got to see the Florida Keys.


Kevin Lowe

I got to go up snow skiing in Snowshoe, West Virginia.


Kevin Lowe

You know, I even got to.


Kevin Lowe

In middle school, we went to Alaska.


Kevin Lowe

Wow, that's so cool.


Kevin Lowe

I got to see Alaska.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

God let me see all of these things.


Kevin Lowe

And then even the little stuff like the fact that my sister Tiffany, she's five years older than me.


Kevin Lowe

I remember when she was in, like, her junior and senior year of high school, same high school that I would go to Seabreeze, and I hung out with Tiffany and her friends all the time.


Kevin Lowe

I went to all the high school parties with Tiffany.


Kevin Lowe

I went to all the high school football games.


Kevin Lowe

I went to the concerts and everything.


Kevin Lowe

With all of them.


Kaylee Z.

You lived large.


Kevin Lowe

I got to live.


Kevin Lowe

I got to live out my senior year.


Kevin Lowe

Then all of this to say God was preparing me and especially, especially prepared me when I was in.


Kevin Lowe

I think it was sixth grade.


Kevin Lowe

So I guess I was probably 12 years old when I would go to my Nana's house every morning.


Kevin Lowe

My mom would drop.


Kevin Lowe

Drop me off at Nana's.


Kevin Lowe

She would take my sister to school, then she would go to work, and then Nana would take me to middle school and then pick me up the afternoon.


Kevin Lowe

It was one morning.


Kevin Lowe

I had been helping my Nana with a program that she was doing through her church, through a First Baptist.


Kevin Lowe

And it was a program called Faith.


Kevin Lowe

And it was a program that she had no understanding of why in the world she would volunteer to sign up for because it was totally out of her comfort zone.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

And it was where, like, her and a small group would literally, like, visit people's homes and sit down and talk with them and go through this whole, like, faith program.


Kevin Lowe

And so she had to have this stuff, like, memorized.


Kevin Lowe

And so every morning she would help, like, quiz me on my stuff, and then I would quiz Nana on her little studies of the faith program.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, this is so cute.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

And so we would do that every morning before middle school.


Kevin Lowe

Well, all of a sudden, one day it was towards the end when Nana had gotten really good, had got the whole thing nailed down.


Kevin Lowe

Something changed, because when she was telling it back to me, all of a sudden she was speaking to me, and she came over.


Kevin Lowe

She came over.


Kevin Lowe

She had been over in her recliner.


Kevin Lowe

I was over on the couch.


Kevin Lowe

And she came over and she knelt down in front of me and she took my hands.


Kevin Lowe

And together, I accepted Jesus into my life as my Lord and Savior.


Kevin Lowe

Kaylee.


Kevin Lowe

I didn't realize that that was the greatest gift that I would ever be given until five years later when I would enter into a world of hell.


Kevin Lowe

And the only way that I would be able to make it out is through Jesus.


Kevin Lowe

That was the final thing he had to do to prepare me for what was to come.


Kevin Lowe

And so today I can tell you that I believe in all my heart and all my being that God had it in his plan for me to become blind at 17 years old because he knew that I would make a greater difference in this world having gone through what I did, than if I hadn't.


Kevin Lowe

I have to find great honor that God chose me to be the one.


Kaylee Z.

You know, I believe that.


Kaylee Z.

I believe that what you're sharing is actually all of our lives.


Kaylee Z.

That if any of us really took the time to look back on our lives, we would see that each step was preparing us for right now, and then for the next challenge or for the next milestone, you know, for the next stage.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah, but it takes some digging, you know, that doesn't.


Kaylee Z.

It doesn't come easily to most people.


Kaylee Z.

What was your journey like in.


Kaylee Z.

You're sharing this.


Kaylee Z.

Did you.


Kaylee Z.

And yet you were, you know, every night begging, you know, let me see in the morning.


Kaylee Z.

When did it click for you that, oh, I was chosen.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, good gracious.


Kevin Lowe

A really long time.


Kevin Lowe

It took.


Kevin Lowe

It took the better part of about 10 years before I even came to a place where I was finally ready to really move on with life.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

I finally realized, like I said, it took about 10 years that I didn't have to give up on my faith singing again one day.


Kevin Lowe

But I realized at that moment that it probably isn't going to be till I'm in heaven.


Kevin Lowe

And so right now, I got more life to live.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

You had to just really accept it was a radical acceptance that allows you to then step into a new phase.


Kevin Lowe

Absolutely.


Kevin Lowe

And it would be sometime later on when I would really come to this point.


Kevin Lowe

And honestly, it was probably a lot through this podcast when I started it back in 2020 and I got into it and I started to understand more of my superpower that God gave me, being able to turn my disability into a superpower.


Kevin Lowe

And it was really through the podcast that I got to really understand and bring me to that point of truly understanding that what a gift it is.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

I'm amazed by what you just said.


Kaylee Z.

It's not that you had all that awareness before and then started a podcast about grace and inspiration.


Kaylee Z.

You're saying that as the podcast unfolded, that became clearer and clearer.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

So why start the podcast?


Kaylee Z.

What, like, that's not.


Kaylee Z.

I would assume the opposite.


Kaylee Z.

Like, you know, you realize, okay, this is my purpose.


Kaylee Z.

You're like, no, I realize that during.


Kaylee Z.

It is a superpower, by the way.


Kaylee Z.

I feel so.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Honored and blessed to call you a friend.


Kaylee Z.

It is.


Kaylee Z.

It's truly superpower.


Kaylee Z.

And I'll try to hum.


Kaylee Z.

I'll try to say this humbly.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know if it'll come out this way, but, you know, a lot of people say that about me, that I'm their.


Kaylee Z.

Their inspiration, that I, I find the light in the darkness and I look at you and I'm like, okay, no, if there's a person finding the light in the darkness, it's Kevin.


Kaylee Z.

So I'm blown away by this, that it happened the other direction.


Kevin Lowe

What?


Kaylee Z.

You're still surprising here.


Kaylee Z.

Go ahead.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, I mean, the podcast.


Kevin Lowe

I always say that the podcast kind of, I think, saved my life in the fact of I had been a travel agent for seven years.


Kevin Lowe

So in 2013 is when I started my own home based travel agency.


Kevin Lowe

And I did that up until 2020.


Kevin Lowe

And by that point, I mean, I knew that I was supposed to be doing something more with my life, but I didn't know what more was.


Kevin Lowe

And so then when the pandemic came and we're all stuck in quarantine and the travel agency, I always say it went from my.


Kevin Lowe

What was going to be my best year ever to the worst year ever.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

It gave me the opportunity to try my hand at a podcast.


Kevin Lowe

And you know, Kaylee, the joke is, is that originally I was going to start a YouTube channel.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

And.


Kevin Lowe

And so I started.


Kevin Lowe

I started getting excited about that.


Kevin Lowe

I thought, perfect opportunity.


Kevin Lowe

We're in quarantine.


Kevin Lowe

Great.


Kevin Lowe

And so I start ordering stuff off Amazon.


Kevin Lowe

And then I always say it was kind of like that light bulb moment, you know?


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

And yes, blind people have light bulb moments, but that did not cross my mind.


Kaylee Z.

Thank you for clarifying.


Kevin Lowe

Of course.


Kevin Lowe

Of course.


Kevin Lowe

And so I realized, what am I doing?


Kevin Lowe

I'm like, if I don't have somebody who is here to film to do all that stuff, I'm not gonna be able to do this on my own.


Kaylee Z.

And I can't believe anything crossed your mind that there's something you can't do on your own.


Kaylee Z.

I'm sorry, hello?


Kaylee Z.

Like, you're telling me how, oh, it's so convenient that I'm really organized.


Kaylee Z.

That's very helpful when being black.


Kaylee Z.

I don't even know if people register what that means.


Kaylee Z.

You have to figure out what color your clothes are.


Kaylee Z.

Like, all that.


Kaylee Z.

Then you're managing a podcast.


Kaylee Z.

I mean, just for the listeners to understand this, I asked Kevin when he interviewed me, how did you.


Kaylee Z.

You referenced, at some point, like, oh, yeah, I was, you know, trying to keep track of my questions.


Kaylee Z.

Or we were going.


Kaylee Z.

I'm thinking, I've got my notes in front of me.


Kaylee Z.

I can see them.


Kaylee Z.

I can see our little, you know, streamyard window.


Kaylee Z.

I've got.


Kaylee Z.

I can see my microphone.


Kaylee Z.

I can see the cup of coffee next to me.


Kaylee Z.

I was like, wait a second, how are you doing that?


Kaylee Z.

And you taught me this was new information for me that you had.


Kaylee Z.

It's just like when people multitask, right?


Kaylee Z.

They've got like seven tabs open on, you know, a browser.


Kaylee Z.

I was blown away that you could listen to the next questions coming while you're listening to me.


Kaylee Z.

Totally blew me away.


Kaylee Z.

So, I mean, when you say, like, wait a second, I can't, you know, make this happen, I'm like, I don't know.


Kaylee Z.

You probably could.


Kaylee Z.

No pressure, but if anyone could do a YouTube channel, you probably could anyways.


Kaylee Z.

That's a different tangent.


Kaylee Z.

Go ahead, continue.


Kevin Lowe

No, no, I love it.


Kevin Lowe

And so, you know, the fact is, you're right.


Kevin Lowe

I probably could have.


Kaylee Z.

But I'm not trying to make you feel bad that you should have done it.


Kaylee Z.

I think your podcast is great.


Kevin Lowe

Well, trust me, the fact is, I am proudly.


Kevin Lowe

Now, no video.


Kevin Lowe

Because I.


Kevin Lowe

I'm not falling victim to the sighted world wanting to see stuff all the time.


Kaylee Z.

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

So I am proudly.


Kevin Lowe

No, Vinny, but so What I was gonna say, though, is at this point when I'm crushed that I can't do a YouTube channel, my sister says, why don't you do a podcast?


Kaylee Z.

Nice.


Kevin Lowe

My answer, what the heck is a podcast?


Kaylee Z.

Oh, for real?


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

For real.


Kevin Lowe

And so I start listening to podcasts about how to create a podcast, and I realize I'm like, oh, my gosh, I just found my jam.


Kevin Lowe

The World of Audio.


Kevin Lowe

I'm like, this is made for the blind eye.


Kaylee Z.

This was made for you.


Kaylee Z.

Yes, Kevin, yes.


Kevin Lowe

And so when I started the podcast, I thought I was still gonna be a travel agent.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

I always say that God hadn't cued me in on the plan yet, so I started the podc.


Kevin Lowe

This podcast, if you go back to the very beginning, was called the Lowdown on Life and Travel.


Kevin Lowe

And so I was doing travel related content, sprinkling in little bits of stuff about, like, my life being blind.


Kevin Lowe

And then the podcast took over my life.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, yeah.


Kevin Lowe

What happened is once I started getting into interviews and I started switching from just travel, and I started just this natural, gradual, beautiful transition into having these amazing conversations with people.


Kevin Lowe

And when we would get off the call, I would have people constantly tell me.


Kevin Lowe

They're like, Kevin, they're like, you ask me questions that no one else has ever asked.


Kevin Lowe

Or I had one lady tell me.


Kevin Lowe

She's like, you see parts of my story that no one but my therapist has ever seen before.


Kevin Lowe

For me, you know, of course, Mr.


Kevin Lowe

Funny Guy, my response has always been, well, you should really be interviewed by more blind people, because it was quite evident, you know.


Kaylee Z.

No, you really have a gift.


Kaylee Z.

It's true.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

So you had it just unfolded.


Kevin Lowe

It did.


Kevin Lowe

It was the most natural progression in.


Kevin Lowe

And I think the most important lesson here for anybody listening is that a lot of times in life, we try to figure out if we're on the right path in life.


Kevin Lowe

And I realized then what it felt like to be on the right path.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

Is that.


Kevin Lowe

For seven years, I literally paddled and paddled and paddled upstream trying to make it work as a travel agent.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

Kaylee.


Kevin Lowe

When I started this podcast, it literally was like I was flipped over on my back floating down the lazy river.


Kaylee Z.

Nice.


Kevin Lowe

It was effortless.


Kaylee Z.

That's how it should be.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

When you're.


Kaylee Z.

When you're doing it right.


Kaylee Z.

When you're.


Kaylee Z.

When you're on the right track, it's.


Kaylee Z.

Doors should just open.


Kaylee Z.

It should be with ease.


Kaylee Z.

We're not supposed to swim upstream.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

We are not salmon.


Kevin Lowe

No.


Kaylee Z.

We are not Salmon, it's amazing, and it's so profound to see the impact that you've had and how quickly it's grown and the amount of inspiration that comes out of every conversation.


Kaylee Z.

And I really.


Kaylee Z.

I really value what you shared, you know, about, like, you being chosen for this and how much you've leaned into this.


Kaylee Z.

I think everybody's going through something, you know, everybody's facing something.


Kaylee Z.

And to be able to hear your perspective through huge challenges, you know, it's just like it could just get someone through the day, you know, it's.


Kaylee Z.

It's profound how it can change a life.


Kaylee Z.

One thing that I would love to know if you're open to sharing more about, you know, we're talking about your vision and being blind, and yet I know the pituitary gland was impacted.


Kaylee Z.

I know this isn't the only thing going on for you.


Kaylee Z.

Can you, you know, share a little bit more about what else is going on in your life?


Kaylee Z.

You're inspiring others, but there's more you are navigating, right?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So for a really long time, I believed in all my heart that if I could have one prayer answered, it would, of course, be that God would let me see again.


Kevin Lowe

It took a really long time to get to a point when I came to understand that being labeled is panhypopit.


Kevin Lowe

Having no pituitary function is actually a far greater disability than being blind.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

Being blind, I can overcome it.


Kevin Lowe

I can learn tactics.


Kevin Lowe

I can do all this different stuff, but there's not much I can do when I wake up in the morning and I don't feel good today.


Kevin Lowe

There's not much I can do when I just can't sometimes live a normal life because maybe stuff that wouldn't affect others, for me, it just wipes my body out.


Kevin Lowe

And so my life is.


Kevin Lowe

It's.


Kevin Lowe

Honestly, it's a constant balancing act of medicines always trying to replace what the pituitary should be doing.


Kevin Lowe

I do that through medications.


Kevin Lowe

And I mean, thank goodness.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, they are what makes me still be here today.


Kevin Lowe

But I always say they're no comparison to what the body should do naturally.


Kevin Lowe

And so that is definitely one thing that I have come to understand is that that condition is definitely more of a disability than being blind.


Kevin Lowe

100%.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

So there's so much more that you are juggling than I think most people realize, especially when they hear your story.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know that that comes up so much.


Kaylee Z.

And one of the other things that, of course, stands out is, you know, you are labeled and you've also labeled yourself like this now with your podcast, but as an inspiration.


Kaylee Z.

I think a misnomer of that is a lot of people think that someone who's so positive and so optimistic that somehow that's.


Kaylee Z.

That they're just always happy.


Kaylee Z.

They always see the glasses half full.


Kaylee Z.

I would love if you could share, you know, how you actually cope and how you manage those hard days.


Kaylee Z.

You know, the days when you said like, your body's just not with it.


Kaylee Z.

How do you get through those moments?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, such a great question because you are right, you know, especially in this day and age of, of social media, the highlight reel.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, nobody wants to post about the boring stuff or the dull stuff or the bad stuff.


Kevin Lowe

We only post about the good stuff in our lives.


Kevin Lowe

And so it's so easy to think that you're the only one not living this amazing life.


Kaylee Z.

Right?


Kevin Lowe

Well, it's honestly the same thing about the podcast.


Kevin Lowe

I get on the podcast and I build up my energy.


Kevin Lowe

Even on days when I don't feel good, I know that I gotta, I treat it like a performance.


Kevin Lowe

I gotta show up, I gotta do the thing.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

Now, what's powerful about it is most of the time it.


Kevin Lowe

By the end of recording an episode, I come out feeling 100% better than when I started.


Kaylee Z.

The power of the mind.


Kevin Lowe

It's amazing how.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, exactly.


Kevin Lowe

And so all that to say is that, yeah, I do have bad days.


Kevin Lowe

I will say that I am so grateful that they don't happen very often anymore.


Kevin Lowe

I say that I believe it's the power of time passing is I do believe that time, time does heal and it makes things a little bit easier because, I mean, I don't know that I can remember the last time that I had a full out cry over not being able to see.


Kevin Lowe

But it's more like in today's point in my life.


Kevin Lowe

It's just when certain things happen and you get frustrated over something that is only frustrating because you're not able to see it's something wrong, technology wise.


Kevin Lowe

And if I could just see it, I could fix it.


Kevin Lowe

Or it's a fact of a loss of freedom.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, I have family.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, I could call an Uber.


Kevin Lowe

But it's not the same as walking out your door and get in a car and driving away.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, those are the kind of things that sometimes can get to you.


Kevin Lowe

Now, like I said, Luckily, 21 years later, rarely do I have those moments that I even think of that I just don't.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

But I think the most important thing that I want to be able to say is that there's nothing wrong, though, that if you do.


Kevin Lowe

Yes, there is nothing wrong with being sad, with wanting to cry, of just wanting to stay in bed all day.


Kevin Lowe

Now, if that turns into a week and months, yeah, then we got to do something.


Kevin Lowe

But to just have a bad day, sometimes I don't think it's such a bad thing.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

It would almost be weird if you had told me you never had any bad days.


Kaylee Z.

You never broke down and cried.


Kaylee Z.

I would think that's just weird.


Kaylee Z.

That would concern me, Kevin.


Kaylee Z.

I'd be like, what?


Kaylee Z.

But you shared so beautifully that, like, it took a decade to actually accept this reality.


Kaylee Z.

And I think that's so powerful for people.


Kaylee Z.

I think a lot of times people see people like us and think, why aren't they like that?


Kaylee Z.

How come they haven't managed to be more positive or to be stronger?


Kaylee Z.

Oh, maybe they're just not strong enough.


Kaylee Z.

Maybe they're weak and we're the strong ones.


Kaylee Z.

Like, no, there's a process here.


Kaylee Z.

Some stuff we gotta get through.


Kaylee Z.

And I really value you sharing so honestly about that.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, absolutely.


Kevin Lowe

It's been a journey.


Kevin Lowe

It has been a journey.


Kevin Lowe

And I always.


Kevin Lowe

I always say, though, that I never, like, I never want people to think that my situation is any worse than, say, somebody else's, you know, that's always been a big thing of me, really, ever since I went blind, is wanting people to understand that their problems are just as big to them as what I'm going through.


Kevin Lowe

For me, yeah, you know, it doesn't matter.


Kevin Lowe

We're not supposed to compare one thing to another.


Kevin Lowe

That's not what life is about.


Kaylee Z.

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

I felt that so much growing up with illness.


Kaylee Z.

You know, we talk about this in a different interview, but I grew up with ms, multiple sclerosis, and I always felt the same exactly how you're describing.


Kaylee Z.

Like, I wouldn't have chosen some of the challenges other people were facing around me growing up.


Kaylee Z.

And it really taught me that, like, you should never compare.


Kaylee Z.

This was the lot I was given, and I'm learning to navigate this.


Kaylee Z.

I would like to not have to figure out how to adapt to those other situations.


Kaylee Z.

Everybody's facing some.


Kaylee Z.

Something, you know.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kevin Lowe

Exactly.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

There's so much I want to ask you.


Kaylee Z.

I don't even know how much time we have.


Kaylee Z.

I could be here for days.


Kaylee Z.

You mentioned how with something like blindness, you know, you can adapt, you can figure out workarounds.


Kaylee Z.

So I would love if you could share a little bit with us about Echolocation because that blew my mind when you shared that.


Kaylee Z.

I told some friends about that, and there's a long list of questions.


Kaylee Z.

But can you just tell us, first of all, what is echolocation and how you learned to see again?


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So, yeah, echolocation is the cool tool in my toolbox.


Kevin Lowe

And it is the thing, though, that I didn't even learn about until 14 years after becoming blind.


Kevin Lowe

Even though I went to all these places, like, you know, blind services center for the visually impaired division, you know, of blind services, all these resources that are amazing and have helped me so much throughout the years.


Kevin Lowe

Nobody ever mentioned anything about echolocation.


Kevin Lowe

And so when I found out about it, thank goodness, it was at the point when I was a travel agent, and one of my travel agent friends saw a YouTube video about this guy named Brian Bushway, and he was blind and he was using echolocation.


Kevin Lowe

And so fast forward through the story.


Kevin Lowe

I end up going out to Los Angeles, California, with my mom and sister for, oh, gosh, you think about 10 days.


Kaylee Z.

Well, that's fun.


Kaylee Z.

That's where I'm from.


Kaylee Z.

You get.


Kevin Lowe

Is it okay.


Kevin Lowe

Amazing.


Kevin Lowe

So we went out there.


Kevin Lowe

I think we were in Culver City.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

And so I got to train one on one with Brian learning echolocation.


Kevin Lowe

Now, it was not easy for the first three days.


Kevin Lowe

It was ridiculous because here I am, you know, Brian, he's doing this clicking technique, and he's telling me, and I'm trying to learn how to do the clicking technique.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

And it's basically just with the.


Kevin Lowe

With your tongue against the roof of your mouth.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

And so what happens is, is when you do that, you make that little snap with the tongue suctioned to get the roof of your mouth.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

That is a sound that then bounces off of the objects around you in front of you.


Kevin Lowe

They come back through your ears, and your brain's visual cortex learns to interpret them as images.


Kaylee Z.

It's profound.


Kaylee Z.

It's something you hear about or see in a movie.


Kaylee Z.

It didn't just happen, though, right.


Kaylee Z.

The brain had to kind of learn that that's what you were doing and then get you those images.


Kaylee Z.

Like, my mind is blown.


Kaylee Z.

Like, walk me through this.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

So it was interesting.


Kevin Lowe

So before I went out to California, something happened.


Kevin Lowe

I didn't even realize that it was echolocation kicking in, But I was walking down.


Kevin Lowe

I think I was with my mom, and we were at a shopping plaza, and we were walking down the sidewalk.


Kevin Lowe

And as we were walking, from the sound of our footsteps, all of a Sudden, I could tell every time we passed a column, because we'd be walking, and I'm like, there's a column.


Kevin Lowe

I just saw it.


Kevin Lowe

Whoa.


Kevin Lowe

You know?


Kevin Lowe

But I didn't even know what that was.


Kevin Lowe

So come to find out.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, that was kind of a form of echolocation.


Kevin Lowe

And so it took.


Kevin Lowe

I think it was on day three of training, the first time that I got to see something.


Kaylee Z.

It took three days.


Kaylee Z.

I'm like, that's all till you could see something?


Kaylee Z.

That's crazy.


Kevin Lowe

Well, what's crazy is I remember talking to Brian before I went out there, and I asked him, how long does it take?


Kevin Lowe

And he said, generally, about three days.


Kevin Lowe

And sure enough, I mean, it was day three of training.


Kevin Lowe

We were in the Airbnb apartment that we had rented.


Kevin Lowe

My mom and sister, they would go out every day doing tourist stuff.


Kevin Lowe

Me and Brian were working in the apartment, and we were identifying corners of the room.


Kevin Lowe

Cause corners are kind of easy to identify.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kevin Lowe

And so he's having me make the little click, and then I'd back up and make the click.


Kevin Lowe

And all of a sudden, it was like somebody turned on a light switch.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

Because all of a sudden, Kaylee, the wall in front of me, it turned all of a sudden.


Kevin Lowe

I could see it.


Kevin Lowe

It was like this fuzzy gray.


Kaylee Z.

Huh.


Kevin Lowe

But I literally could see the whole wall.


Kevin Lowe

And to the point that I could literally walk right up to it and stop without touching it.


Kaylee Z.

Whoa.


Kevin Lowe

And then I remember I kept doing the clicking technique, and I walked along the wall, and then all of a sudden, it stopped, and it was like this big, like, dark cavern.


Kevin Lowe

It was the opening to the kitchen.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kaylee Z.

It was like a doorway.


Kaylee Z.

So when you say you could see it, can you.


Kaylee Z.

Can you compare what.


Kaylee Z.

What this site is like now through echolocation versus how you saw before?


Kaylee Z.

Could you describe that for us?


Kevin Lowe

So I've been doing that.


Kevin Lowe

So I think I went out to California in.


Kevin Lowe

I guess that was 2017.


Kevin Lowe

And so it's what, 20, 24, so what, seven years?


Kevin Lowe

And today I can tell you.


Kevin Lowe

And it's a good way to kind of describe how it looks.


Kevin Lowe

And what I'm talking about is I will be standing, say, in my kitchen, and the faucet will be on, and maybe the water hits a dish a certain way, where all of a sudden, literally, it's like the light turns on, and I can look over and I see my mom's figure standing in the kitchen.


Kaylee Z.

Whoa.


Kaylee Z.

So other things trigger it.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, not typically.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

But.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

And so it literally, I could see My mom's figure.


Kevin Lowe

I can see just the figures of the cabinets.


Kevin Lowe

It's like a world of.


Kevin Lowe

Of different shades of gray and dark.


Kevin Lowe

And you can identify even, like, texture, because I always say, like, it's easy to identify, like, where a faucet is, because you'll get.


Kevin Lowe

I describe it as, like, a little ping off of the faucet.


Kevin Lowe

So almost like you think of, like, one of the commercials for, like, glassware, and they show, like, a visible, like, little sparkle.


Kevin Lowe

That's literally how it handles with the shiny metal like that versus, like, say, a couch.


Kevin Lowe

It's more just like a fuzzy gray, but I see the shape of it.


Kaylee Z.

That's so interesting.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

And so literally, it's changed my life so much that my life is no longer like it used to be.


Kevin Lowe

It's no longer nothingness, but instead the world around me has shape and dimension.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kevin Lowe

You know, it has been the truly the most profound thing that ever happened.


Kevin Lowe

And I'll share with you that while I was in California that day, the first day when it happened, I remember going to bed that night.


Kevin Lowe

I remember laying in bed, and I remember praying, and I remember saying to God.


Kevin Lowe

I remember smiling.


Kevin Lowe

It was like, God, you let me see again just in a whole new way.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kaylee Z.

You know, I'm Jewish, and every morning there's, like, a series of blessings that we say, and one of them is, you know, blessed are you, you know, master of the universe who gives the blind sight.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, wow.


Kaylee Z.

And when you were telling me that every night you went to bed asking to see.


Kaylee Z.

Asking, asking to get your sight back, and I knew, of course, you and I have talked about echolocation.


Kaylee Z.

I was thinking.


Kaylee Z.

I was like, wow, it's like that blessing, and now you just said that, and I'm like, wow, you.


Kaylee Z.

You actually got to live that.


Kaylee Z.

You were given that.


Kaylee Z.

I mean, I have that in a very small way.


Kaylee Z.

I also.


Kaylee Z.

I.


Kaylee Z.

I've had a lot of vision issues, and I went blind in one eye.


Kaylee Z.

So when I read that blessing, I feel like, yes, I've experienced that.


Kaylee Z.

I'm like, but your brain developed, and it's.


Kaylee Z.

You developed an entirely new way to see.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

It's been the biggest life changer.


Kevin Lowe

Honest to goodness.


Kevin Lowe

I am so blessed to have gotten that opportunity to even learn about it, because I learned in the blind, like, circles of organizations and stuff, they almost view the whole echolocation thing kind of like doctors view, like, chiropractors, you know, like, they're not real.


Kevin Lowe

They're not real doctors or something that's.


Kaylee Z.

So, like, that's crazy.


Kaylee Z.

This is so powerful.


Kevin Lowe

It is crazy.


Kaylee Z.

What a gift.


Kevin Lowe

Well, and that's what I remember when I realized it and I understood and I learned it.


Kevin Lowe

I remember I was so also, like, upset at the same point, thinking, I've been blind for 14 years.


Kevin Lowe

Why aren't these organizations teaching this?


Kaylee Z.

Yeah, why?


Kaylee Z.

I'm, like, blown.


Kaylee Z.

I'm so confused by what you're saying right now.


Kaylee Z.

What an amazing gift.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, exactly.


Kevin Lowe

And it's been amazing.


Kevin Lowe

And what's cool is it blossomed into an amazing friendship that I'm still friends with.


Kevin Lowe

Brian Bushway.


Kevin Lowe

Me and him, we talk all the time.


Kevin Lowe

And just two really good friends because of that whole thing.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow, that's.


Kaylee Z.

Well, I mean, he sounds like what an incredible.


Kaylee Z.

What an incredible person.


Kaylee Z.

I just.


Kaylee Z.

I just.


Kaylee Z.

For.


Kaylee Z.

For technical purposes, I'm just curious.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know if you've ever ridden horses, but I'm wondering if the click is similar.


Kaylee Z.

Is that similar?


Kevin Lowe

Oh, no.


Kaylee Z.

Okay.


Kaylee Z.

Can we hear it?


Kevin Lowe

I'm gonna try.


Kevin Lowe

My mouth is so dry.


Kevin Lowe

But so it's.


Kaylee Z.

Sorry.


Kaylee Z.

Sorry to put you on the spot.


Kevin Lowe

So it's kind of more like a.


Kaylee Z.

It's much.


Kaylee Z.

It's much more subtle.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

And so you do it in different circumstances.


Kevin Lowe

You can make it louder or quieter.


Kevin Lowe

And so.


Kevin Lowe

But the whole key is when I was learning how to do it, it come out not as a click, but a cluck, because you can't have two little clicks.


Kevin Lowe

Just have to have one click.


Kevin Lowe

And so it took a while to figure out how to do it, to do it really good.


Kevin Lowe

And then, I mean, you know, and so, yeah, most everybody, when they try to do it, they instead make a clocking noise and they're like, yeah, no, that's not it.


Kaylee Z.

Well, that's why you had to do all that training.


Kaylee Z.

And I think it's so profound.


Kaylee Z.

It's such an amazing example of the power of the human spirit.


Kaylee Z.

You know, if you really want something, you just stay determined and dedicated and fly to the other side of the country to.


Kaylee Z.

To figure it out.


Kaylee Z.

And the power of the brain, you know, that that's.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

And I just want everyone to also hear this.


Kaylee Z.

This isn't like.


Kaylee Z.

This is already a brain that has been through significant damage and you still were able to develop, you know, an entirely new skill.


Kaylee Z.

It's profound.


Kaylee Z.

I want to ask you, sort of, maybe it's a weird question.


Kaylee Z.

I don't know if.


Kaylee Z.

If you could go back and the surgeon could tell you that this is what was going to Happen.


Kaylee Z.

Let's say the surgeon said, look, we're going to save your life.


Kaylee Z.

And this, you know, this is the only way.


Kaylee Z.

We have to, we have to do the surgery.


Kaylee Z.

It's what will save your life.


Kaylee Z.

But you know you'll lose your sight.


Kaylee Z.

What would you have done with those two weeks?


Kaylee Z.

What would you have wanted to see?


Kaylee Z.

What do you think you would have done?


Kaylee Z.

I'm asking, you know, for others what we can do to savor the gift of sight that we have.


Kevin Lowe

You know, Kaylee, the truth is that I often say that when they pushed me through the operating room doors that morning, I remember my mom and dad, they walked back with me.


Kevin Lowe

I said goodbye to them as they pushed me through the doors.


Kevin Lowe

If I knew then that I would never get to see their faces again, I don't think I could have allowed them to push me through those doors.


Kevin Lowe

Because honest to goodness, becoming blind, Kaylee, it has been the most God awful hell on earth experience I ever even knew.


Kevin Lowe

I didn't even know that such pain could exist on earth.


Kevin Lowe

And so I am so grateful that God did not give me that option.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow, so you're grateful you didn't know.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah, wow.


Kevin Lowe

Definitely, wow.


Kevin Lowe

Because I don't think there's any way I could have prepared myself.


Kevin Lowe

And I think it's important, I guess, maybe to even note is that when a lot of people hear blindness, there's actually a very big spectrum of blindness.


Kevin Lowe

Matter of fact, it's a very small percentage of people who say they are blind that are completely blind.


Kevin Lowe

Most have some degree of sight.


Kevin Lowe

Whereas me, I am completely blind.


Kevin Lowe

And so I am so grateful that I did not have that option.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

I.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

I mean, I can't even imagine.


Kaylee Z.

And I'll just say, like, that really hits home for me right now.


Kaylee Z.

You know, as you know, I was just back in LA with my parents and we almost lost my dad.


Kaylee Z.

And so as you described, that was like, wow.


Kaylee Z.

Like, I'm so glad we got on a plane and thank God, thank God he's making a miraculous recovery.


Kaylee Z.

But no, there were many moments of like, wow, like this.


Kaylee Z.

You know, it could be it.


Kaylee Z.

And it's, it's a really precious thing that you just described, like just being able to see your loved ones.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kevin Lowe

Oh.


Kevin Lowe

I mean, when I would pray about getting to see again, I would also always just beg God, I would say, God, if you won't let me see anything else, just let me get to see my family.


Kevin Lowe

Just let me get to see my family.


Kevin Lowe

That probably has been the hardest Thing.


Kevin Lowe

And even today, if I allow myself to go, there is the thought that I don't even get to know what my mom, my dad, my sister, my cousins who are young.


Kevin Lowe

I don't even get to know what they look like.


Kevin Lowe

Heck, Kaylee, I don't even know what I look like.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, wow.


Kaylee Z.

I haven't even thought about that.


Kevin Lowe

You know, now, my family, they think it's amazing that I remember them how they looked 21 years ago.


Kaylee Z.

They probably appreciate that you haven't seen them age.


Kevin Lowe

As my sister told me one time, she's like, kevin, you would be really disappointed.


Kaylee Z.

I'm glad you all have a sense of humor about this.


Kevin Lowe

We do, we do.


Kevin Lowe

But it's a really weird thing.


Kevin Lowe

And memory is something like remembering what things look like, especially people.


Kevin Lowe

It's very interesting because when I.


Kevin Lowe

When I remember, when I, like, actually try to remember, like, what somebody looks like, I always go back to a photograph that I had seen of that person.


Kevin Lowe

And I think it's because, like, a photograph is just a snapshot of time that makes time stand still and allows you to focus on them.


Kevin Lowe

And so when I think of my Nana, I think of a photograph of her standing in her kitchen with a red shirt on and her apron on, cooking with her gold rimmed eyeglasses.


Kevin Lowe

I think of my mom, a picture of her.


Kevin Lowe

That was her standing in our kitchen cooking.


Kevin Lowe

And it was one, like, Saturday morning.


Kevin Lowe

She had, like, her white robe on, her hair pulled up with the big gold hair clip.


Kevin Lowe

I always said it looked like a whale's tail that she would pin up, you know, and there's different photos like that of, like, my sister or my dad.


Kevin Lowe

I think I always think back to a photograph because sometimes, sometimes it scares me when I start to lose that.


Kevin Lowe

And I'll go back and I'll just make myself remember that photograph.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Do you have one of you that you go back to?


Kevin Lowe

I do.


Kevin Lowe

It was me sitting in my truck that I got when I turned 16.


Kevin Lowe

It was taken outside of my nana's house, and it's a picture of me sitting in it with the door open.


Kevin Lowe

And that's the picture I remember.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Nice.


Kaylee Z.

Nice.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow, Kevin.


Kaylee Z.

I mean, just talking to you is such a journey.


Kaylee Z.

And.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah, I've got tears streaming down my face as we talk right now.


Kaylee Z.

You know, like I said, there's.


Kaylee Z.

There's so much.


Kaylee Z.

I've literally got a list here of just topics we didn't even cover.


Kaylee Z.

And.


Kaylee Z.

And yet I sort of feel.


Kaylee Z.

I feel a sense of peace, I guess.


Kaylee Z.

I would call it.


Kaylee Z.

I think that, yeah, when we talk about, you know, today or whenever this is going to air, being, you know, close to your anniversary or on your anniversary, and you shared, you know, you were chosen.


Kaylee Z.

God chose you for this.


Kaylee Z.

This day.


Kaylee Z.

This day was also chosen.


Kaylee Z.

This anniversary was chosen.


Kaylee Z.

And the day that your life was saved, in turn, became a blessing for innumerable amounts of people.


Kaylee Z.

Like, we can't.


Kaylee Z.

We can't even count how many people's lives you've touched.


Kaylee Z.

And the way that you share, it's like.


Kaylee Z.

It's, like, profound.


Kaylee Z.

Like, you're so real, you're so authentic and so grounded, while also, like, silly and high in the sky.


Kaylee Z.

Like, all of it, you know, so expansive, so spiritual.


Kaylee Z.

It's like, it's just such a blessing.


Kaylee Z.

And.


Kaylee Z.

And you are such a blessing.


Kaylee Z.

And I want to just say, like, I really want to ask.


Kaylee Z.

I want to ask that God, you know, continues to bless you with continued miracles, and I do want to ask for your sight, you know, like, let's keep asking for that.


Kaylee Z.

That it's like, you're still going to be the blessing.


Kaylee Z.

You're still going to be inspiring.


Kaylee Z.

I'm here, you know, to ask for that and for your health.


Kaylee Z.

And more than anything, that you continue to have the energy, the desire, the willingness to keep, you know, having these conversations, inspiring others to keep showing up every day, even on the hard days.


Kaylee Z.

And I just want to thank you.


Kaylee Z.

It's a weird moment.


Kaylee Z.

I'm like, can I thank you on behalf of, like, the thousands of people who've experienced you?


Kaylee Z.

I'm going to do that.


Kaylee Z.

I'm doing that.


Kaylee Z.

That's.


Kaylee Z.

That's my thing, you know, And I'm grateful to God for bringing you on this journey.


Kevin Lowe

Aw.


Kevin Lowe

Kaylee.


Kevin Lowe

You know, I always say that we don't get to always choose what happens in this life, you know?


Kevin Lowe

Yes, I know, but we.


Kevin Lowe

But I think we do get to choose what we do with it.


Kevin Lowe

When I started this podcast, I had no idea that I would get to meet people like you.


Kevin Lowe

And I've come to understand that in this life, the things that matter the most are the people we meet and the experiences we have.


Kevin Lowe

Well, this podcast, I say it checks both of those boxes, is I get to meet people like you.


Kevin Lowe

I get to have an experience with you, and I can't think of a better thing to do.


Kevin Lowe

And the fact of getting to meet you, to have you do this amazing episode today on such a special occasion for me personally.


Kevin Lowe

It means the world to hear you coming from the Person who you are and how highly I think of you.


Kevin Lowe

I thank you in the most sincere way possible.


Kaylee Z.

You know, I think, Kevin, we established the last time we spoke or not the last time we spoke, the first time we spoke, clearly, we are soul family.


Kaylee Z.

And what.


Kaylee Z.

One of the things that I've learned through my journey is that we come here with a mission, Our souls come here with a mission, and our soul groups sort of go, okay, I'm going to help you with this.


Kaylee Z.

I'm going to help you with that.


Kaylee Z.

And let's hope along the way, we remind each other of our mission, of our path, and you do your best to hope that you actually, you know, live your purpose and fulfill your mission.


Kaylee Z.

Maybe you even get to a part of it.


Kaylee Z.

Maybe not all of it, but, okay, some of it is soul success.


Kaylee Z.

And being able to know you and having this conversation with you today on your anniversary is one of those moments that makes me feel like, you know, the fact that we met, the fact that we get to have this connection to then have this conversation and inspire others is like, we must have planned this.


Kaylee Z.

You know, our souls must have said, like, all right, then you're going to talk, and then you're going to do this, and you're going to do that.


Kaylee Z.

And, like, it just.


Kaylee Z.

That's all I feel right now.


Kaylee Z.

I feel like this is a moment of confirmation that, you know, our souls are doing what we're supposed to do, that we are.


Kaylee Z.

That we're showing up for the mission that we set out to do.


Kaylee Z.

And it's really amazing when you get.


Kaylee Z.

When you get those little glimmers and kind of, you know, can peek behind the curtain and go, like, oh, okay, yeah, this was.


Kaylee Z.

That is what we wanted.


Kaylee Z.

This is what I came for.


Kaylee Z.

So it's really special to get to share this moment with you and everyone gets to hear us have this moment.


Kaylee Z.

And if it's appropriate, you know, I want to tell you happy anniversary and.


Kevin Lowe

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

And what are you going to do with it for yourself, for your family?


Kaylee Z.

Because I know obviously this changed your whole family's life.


Kaylee Z.

How will you guys be marking this day off air?


Kevin Lowe

Oh, my goodness.


Kevin Lowe

Well, first, I will say that I echo everything you say, and I believe that I put it maybe a little less elegantly than you in the fact that I believe that you're my sister from another mother, and I have to believe that it's all part of the plan and it's all working out.


Kevin Lowe

Yep, it's all working out.


Kevin Lowe

For our good for celebration.


Kevin Lowe

Well, we have A thing we do that we don't do it every single anniversary, but we do it a lot is we kind of go back to where it started is our family goes out to dinner at Outback Steakhouse.


Kaylee Z.

I was hoping you were going to say that.


Kaylee Z.

Tell me it's Outback.


Kevin Lowe

Yep.


Kaylee Z.

You got to have Outback sponsor your podcast.


Kevin Lowe

I should absolutely listening right now.


Kevin Lowe

I'll reach out to.


Kevin Lowe

I will definitely have to reach out.


Kevin Lowe

But.


Kevin Lowe

But the funny thing, Kaylee, is when we go is, you know, obviously the waiter, waitress when there's a big party.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, what are you guys celebrating?


Kevin Lowe

Oh, wow.


Kevin Lowe

That's when it gets awkward and we're.


Kaylee Z.

Like, what are you celebrating?


Kevin Lowe

What do you say?


Kaylee Z.

What do you say?


Kevin Lowe

Well, I say it's the 21 year anniversary of Bob's death, which then they're like, what?


Kevin Lowe

Okay, like Bob.


Kevin Lowe

Bob the tumor.


Kevin Lowe

Bob the tumor.


Kaylee Z.

Bob the tumor.


Kaylee Z.

Okay, that's a good answer.


Kevin Lowe

But no, it's, you know, as I said, the anniversary, it's a celebration.


Kevin Lowe

It's a celebration of the fact that I'm still here today.


Kaylee Z.

Yes.


Kevin Lowe

As I said, they said I had less than six months and I would have died at 17 years old.


Kevin Lowe

And so for me, it's a celebration that I'm still here with my family.


Kevin Lowe

A celebration that I just still get to be here on Earth.


Kevin Lowe

And you know, Kaylee, even on the hard days, I always just want to make a difference in somebody's day.


Kevin Lowe

That's the whole mission of this podcast, is to just make somebody's day a little bit better because they hear something that I say or you say, and that's what it's all about.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, wow.


Kaylee Z.

Amen to that.


Kaylee Z.

Amen to that.


Kaylee Z.

I know that that's what you are doing, and may it continue.


Kaylee Z.

And for all of those listening, you know, tell Kevin, let him know the impact.


Kaylee Z.

You know, you don't realize how much it means to hear these stories.


Kaylee Z.

And it's, you know, he deserves to know.


Kaylee Z.

He deserves to know.


Kaylee Z.

So let him know.


Kaylee Z.

Well, Kevin, thank you for this opportunity.


Kaylee Z.

Like, I, I'm so, I'm like amazed that we got to do this.


Kaylee Z.

So.


Kaylee Z.

It's so special.


Kaylee Z.

So special.


Kaylee Z.

And the one thing I just want to say, we didn't have time to talk about your family.


Kaylee Z.

You keep referencing them and, and you know, I know it goes without saying this affects everyone and I know how special they are to be on this journey with you and to also have been chosen for this journey.


Kaylee Z.

So I just want to also acknowledge them also, because today also is a big day in their lives.


Kaylee Z.

So I just want to take a moment.


Kaylee Z.

I know that that's also important to you, so I just wanted to make sure we got that in there.


Kevin Lowe

Oh, absolutely.


Kevin Lowe

And that kind of brings up a good point, is I will say that anybody who would love to meet my mom or to meet Nana, I'll link interviews with both of them in the show notes today that you can go listen to.


Kaylee Z.

That's awesome.


Kaylee Z.

Oh, that's so cool.


Kaylee Z.

I'm really excited about that.


Kaylee Z.

Yeah.


Kaylee Z.

Your mom is so special.


Kaylee Z.

I love talking to.


Kaylee Z.

Loved it.


Kevin Lowe

Yes.


Kaylee Z.

Amazing.


Kaylee Z.

Amazing.


Kaylee Z.

Is there anything else that you would want to share, Kevin, on your anniversary before we close?


Kevin Lowe

I think we covered it all.


Kevin Lowe

I think this was amazing.


Kaylee Z.

Wow.


Kaylee Z.

Kevin, I feel so honored and humbled.


Kaylee Z.

This has been so, so special.


Kaylee Z.

I'm sure that all your listeners agree with me that you truly are a blessing.


Kaylee Z.

Not just because you're always strong and optimistic, because you're real about the challenges as well.


Kaylee Z.

Thank you for being you.


Kaylee Z.

On behalf of all of those whose lives you've touched, we wish you a happy anniversary.


Kaylee Z.

And we look forward to celebrating this anniversary in complete health and complete eyesight.


Kaylee Z.

And we're always wishing you nothing but health and happiness.


Kaylee Z.

Thank you so, so much for this incredible opportunity to be the host of your podcast and to share your story in this amazing space that you've created.


Kaylee Z.

Kevin, you truly are the epitome of grit, grace, and inspiration.


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